we talked about healthcare. talk about access to healthcare. there is nothing that i see the republicans and democrats in any way enhance our medical delivery. >> well, this is -- i agree with you 100%. we are headed for a disaster. quite obviously, who is getting into it quickest and who is most persistent in going to that web site and getting through it and getting help? it's it the people with preexisting conditions who have tremendous medical problems who need, as he said, you need a couple hundred thousand dollars paid. who is not going to it? the kid on the ad in the super bowl who is out there shooting hoops and they told him to go get hurt and have a bad knee, is he not going into that web site. >> stick around and see what rick klein of abc is going to tell news a few minutes when he comes up. i think there are far other problems than even sort of the mechanics how this works. the back end the insurance companies are complaining because they are not going to get paid. the question is what happens when you show up at your doctor in janu